General thread for discussion of Aryavarta and overall Vedic history, culture, philosophy, religion, demographics, and civilizational revival.
What should be preserved?
What should be restored?
What should be created?
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>>65
There is no difference to Vedic and modern Hinduism.
Both are rooted in the Brahmanas.
The only thing that needs to be preserved is dignified living spaces for Hindu people. This can be achieved only by removing muslims from India.
>>65
Funny country. Everyone says caste is evil, but the whole political system runs on caste. Elections are caste, reservations are caste, vote banks are caste, party strategy is caste. Then the same people stand on stage and say they are fighting caste. Who are they fooling?
Nothing is getting revived, nothing is getting united, and nothing is getting fixed until this contradiction is dealt with. People can keep shouting slogans, but as long as caste remains the main currency of politics, the same problems will keep coming back again and again.
>>65
Revival of clan
Clan>>>>>>>Caste
Caste was supposed to be a functional social order, not entire identity.
Why should a stranger you've never met be considered closer to you than the people who share your blood, ancestry, traditions, and history?
Your clan knows its past, remembers its ancestors, preserves its customs.
A tribe is a living community.
A caste label on a census form is not.
The old Aryan ideal wasn't faceless bureaucracy and endless paperwork.
It were the free men who knew their lineage, assemblies of elders from various Aryan tribes used to sit beneath open skies, kinship, duty, and mutual obligation was amongst them.
The Vedic order weakened when power drifted away from communities and into the hands of greedy kings, ambitious courtiers, and later politicians who saw society as something to use and despose of ror thier personal gain not as something tobelong to.
Know your forefathers, your people and your traditions.
>>351
The only true aryans still roaming the subcontinent are yadavs. All the rest castes are birth of social stratification bwtween the same aryan group
I am only talking abt ahirs not goalas their origin I still haven't studied and many were appropriated Yadav surname during 1900s
I am the true steppe putra
Bhramin are larpers. No two bhramins from different Aryan tribes or regions have same ancestors. Cause again they are birth of social stratification of aryan tribe
Rajputs as a title didn't even exist late until the 12th century. I haven't read their history. Will later
Every place I kang on historically as to where ahirs live. There they still are this day. Mathura. West UP. Densest population of ahirs only ahirs are in ahirwal and west UP
I am 6 1 myself. In our socitey expect punjabis me and my other yadav frend are the tallest
Yadav history deniers are all larpers
>>179
Yeah, Imagine every clan gathering around great altar fires again, like in the old days. Elders, warriors, herders, craftsmen, women,. children everyone sitting together beneath the open skies together. Nowadays Idol worship which was never really Aryan tradition is dominant form of practice.
The yajña was never meant to become something so performative it is today. It was a living tradition that brought families and clans together nowdays it feels just another ceremony to sit through, or just another way for priests to earn money.
Every household should know at least the basic hymns. Every child should grow up hearing them. Every family should know how to prepare a simple fire altar and offer with sincerity. Knowledge should not be locked away behind a small group. A tradition survives when ordinary people live it.
First step for Vedic revival is to bring back community yajñas.
A civilization stays alive when its people participate.
>>352
The reason yadavs are doing vaishya occupation not kshatriya is becoz haihaya and other desecandamts of yadu subclans were castes into the forest were lord parshuram vowed to ellimate all kashtriyas. The aryans fled to indus valley and forgot all Aryan culture like sacred thread wearing. Later they came back in century bce facing pressure due to indo Greeks and sychtians. They came back and became part of the broader yaduvansh clan. Vrishini married in abhiras to form Nandvanshi yadavs. I am gonna make a yt vid on yadav history to btfo all larpers
BTW source of this is rig veda
We must do something about our martial arts. We expected our warrior class to preserve and at least keep them alive amongst themselves but they totally failed in that.
Look at karate, Judo, aikido, Taekwondo, Kung fu, jiu jutsu, how tey have been preserved and each one serve purposes at different situations.
any expert here on our arts?
>>355
I think only well known one is Kalari, but it is clearly just one example. There are lot of our martial arts that need to be brought back. Martial practice should be made norm among young boys from an early age.
>>65
Revive martial tradition amd declare yourself seprate identiry from hinduism first
>>353
There is no clans everyone is mixed even the jaats who have still strongest clan identity are mixed to a great extent
>>379
Yes, its kind of arbitrary to region lock us in some identity crisis. Aryas pretty much just travelled where they wished and married the most beautiful women they could find. I think we should slowly move towards the central asia, mix with them, impose our own culture and faith. I am being quite serious, we have grown stagnant by not migrating and not marrying different women.
>>65
>What should be preserved?
The vocal tradition, because they are free from corruption. There is not much supoort for this but i think living oracle and based, it genuinely shows weight of soul behind the upanishads.
>What should be restored?
Lost branches if we can, there are some dying branches that can actually be saved if people put their collectivr effort into it.
>What should be created?
Martial Tradition, but i think we can create an organised craftsmen guild. This would and should allow us to create a capital of craft supply, for people, by people. It will be nice for society to be more circled arroind those who are agragarians, like Jaats, the Yadavs, even Bhumihars, and other similar groups. Farmers should be able to keep using their own produce, should not have to rely on greedy kikes out there.
From cultural continuity, i wish that we had regional rulers. However my stance on this is not absolute and free to opinions. For food i think we should normalise the old consumption of buffalo, which is totally aligned with vedas as they are not aghinya unless someone is a Vaishnava sampraday follower.
I want more debates among the other school like old days. Dvaita vs Advaita and the non Vedantist Scholars persuing the truth with their life on line. Artworks as well, i think lot of Shudra communities that are from Lohana clans or similar are losing a lot of their trade. I dont get why their is nothing being done to support them. Pottery or other similar work, it can genuinely be a gold mine. Pushan, Tvastra were all Aditya who were dedicated to such crafts and it breaks my heart how we have abandoned thee communities that worked on them.
Further more, less temples, but the one that do exist (following the Rg Veda, first five mandala and Attharva) as well as the law of Shilpa Shastra, temples should be once again maid with law and order, for the entire community to come together. It should be spacious, wirh place to meditare.
The temple, It should not be tourist spot. It should not be profit driven, but made to be a clean place, and those who are not fit or defile it should be exocommunicated from visiting them, same as ruing sacred fire of old days. Waterways and clean rivers, like old days, i want all of it back again. I also strongly suggest we all bring back eating meat from animal that is killed in jhatka fashion, instantly, swiftly not the abrahamic way.
>Share whatever you can
These are my thoughts, but i will share a bit more on proper lost arts and crafts as well later, cool thread OP
>Books, Research, Artworks, Maps, Archives, Ideas.
I might have some stuff saved, i will try to share some
>>69
No anon, that is Pitradevta. Kuldevta is not always your ancestor though in some case he can be both Pitradeva and Kuldeva at once. However Kukdeva and Kuldevi can be entirely unrelated to who your ancestors were.
>>127
Interesting, though i think first we need to reduce population. I believe if we had half the nunber of people we do now, this will not be bad. Otherwise we will end up just wiping them out, and that seems to not be something someome will do willingly.
