I mean like a secret mysterious organization controlling political waves in lundia. And around the world. Like some kike pulling string about how indians should be new minority target in kikemeric. Or pendulum will swing back to left in india slowly. Like they meet in a secret building
>>247868
Yes. 13 families control 8 billion people. Everything is coordinated by them. Even WW2 was planned by them, they funded both sides of the war.
>>247908
Le Jews control everything is a meme that these “people” (in a biological sense they aren’t) are desperately shilling. Think about it; if Jews had 1% of the power people claim they have, antisemitism would’ve never gotten so mainstream.
>>247918
you are retarded, they only really controlled what the us and britain does, germany and the soviets were out of their control, the reason for the war was the raw realty of resource distribution in Europe, heres a strong power in the center of europe, economy hovering over the gutter, a stronger power in the east, preparing for an offensive westwards mid 40s, germany could either wait to be overrun by commies or try their best gamble now... the organic state theory is not an ideology it is just a observation
>>247936
also being used for the same purpose, they lack nuance
and so is most groypers, groypers are intensely low iq, associating with them is bad pr, they make the rest of us look stupid too
>>247934
>lc anon.
I don’t care about my caste because I fundamentally don’t understand it nor have I experienced anything related to it irl. I tried to larp it but I just don’t get it at all fundamental level.
>>247924
anon not every jew has the same power, read about their financial rise in nederland, ofc tho, the cabal has non jewish parts too, but they are spiritually the same
hitler was right with the holocaust, having a fifth column in your nation with foreign loyalties is suicidal, trying to save the few who may be true germans is logistically unfeasible
>>247951
not really, genetics is complex, we should look for what genes express themselves, if someone can think about complex abstract ideas beyond food and oogabooga they are non abbo, no one here is an aryan atp, so less just get rid of the unbearably abbo-ish people
>>247929
>you are retarded
Yes.
>they only really controlled what the us and britain
Also yes.
>germany could either wait to be overrun by commies or try their best gamble now.
More or less, agreed with pretty much everything you said. The fundamental point of why everyone likes the idea of it being "jews" is because majority of normies have this fantasy of being able to see what no one does.
Most lack the intellect to see the entire picture so they simplify it. Easy way to achieve this is by boiling down entire problem to a core group. You could go as far as wiping out jews but problems will persist as they are.
Jews are a mask under the mask, kind of situation, the core culprit uses them as a scape goat. However it will take a few more years till that gets to the goy media or mainstream market.
>>247955
because of this collective punishment is justified, it is just logistically impossible to weed out everyone, and even if one supports u now they will still subconsciously have diverse beliefs
>>247954
>food and oogabooga
There are blue eyed blonde afghans who are like this. And high iq Tamils who are capable of comprehending abstract concepts.
>>247958
they are not really pure aryans, tests only show ancestry, many years have passed, they may have changed, besides you are ignoring the islamic factor, wherever islam goes iq drops by 50
>>247956
there are jews in the cabal, maybe even a significant, and they certainly control banking and have been behind most of the ideologies that are used to trick goyims... yea tho there are many other parts to it, the british monarchy is one... hate that people think theyre really insignificant today
>>247945
Seethe will end someday lc anon.
>>247946
Seconded. Though i did not like his closeted christian principals, but the entire spectrum of views from the nationalist perspective was a good one, specially ethnic one.
>>247949
You are an abbo too by that logic yara both of you are beautifull abbos in my eyes, keku. Joxx aside, i dont like the abbo title since i never enjoyed the entire obsession with blonde hair or blue eyes. Reminds me of NW thread we had on bhach.
>>247949
Caste "was" ethnic identity, and to be honest it still is but lets not digress far from subject of secret orgs because of LC seethe. Lets stick to core subject a little bit. Have yoy kept track of communist movements as of the recent?
>>247972
they stole everything the ones did before them, then muslim slowly destroyed the institutions and philosophies that were responsible for it, like in spain, they stole spanish inventions as islamic
>>247982
no, its just bhangis crying about oppression so they could get reservation, we need to redpill indians on "race" realism, theyre dont show low iq because they are discriminated against, they are discriminated against because they are low iq, and discrimination here is any meritocratic system
>>247965
>I doubt it will happen.
Believe it or not it is happening, and to be honest i am surprised it has not exactly been taken down. Though jt may be because most groups are still playing a "Jews did it all".
I find it amusing, "how come we all are not allowed to criticize jews", bur tell me when have we ever been stopped from criticizing them?
Let me give you something that you have already noticed ozzy anon. What do leftism, which includes equal rights for women in such interpretation that it destroys women, forcing men in the female spaces, surgeries on minors in first world nation being rampant, as well as homosexuality and the further kind activities which no evolved and rustic species should follow, "has in common with" muslims.
Take a very deep, long thought for a second.
>>247978
the shit happening in france kek, btw macron loves it actually, hes in the cabal, for one imagine it were pro french right wing riots instead, can you imagine the fallout and response? hes letting commies riot
the dialectic in simulation
>>247994
it is the dialectic in simulation yaar, they want to destroy national identities so they can rule the world completely, currently they dominate economically and militarily through jewsa, theyre trying to complete infiltrate the subconscious and destroy group identities now
>>247968
>Persia still remained high iq despite it
This "is" debatable, but i agree with spirit of point you made. They did not outright devolve for starters. Islam has historically attempted to push its said image in same light ad christianity did in hand of white community (post the rabbinic judaism, unlike its prior said iteration) where christianity's core body went away from desert rats to the cumskins. Islam however can not claim to have same feats, as majority of them were eating lizards in past, the sole exception is Persia, thus Iran who were so high IQ, they became a bit retarded, but it was not enough to devolve then entirely.
posted these in some other thread, will paste here too,
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But what does that exactly mean? The greatest problem with India are Indians, the state of a nation is largely the result of its demography, India is a shithole because majority Indians are shit goblins. India is a chaotic dumbocracy because that is what Lundian demography has in its destiny... A dictatorship because of that would be highly unstable and unlikely to achieve anything too different than what is already being done, that is if these Pajeets even understand the basedness of dictatorships.
If you could stay in power over decades the best move would be to create an entirely new people, run a nationwide state sponsored program, find the few existing Aryan genes, use them to create Aryan children in a lab. Make millions of them. raise them in best conditions, and train them to be warriors and great philosophers, then use them as the new buffer between you and the abbo masses, the overall goal must be to increase the number of Aryan blood, while slowly aiming to annihilate all abbos, with whatever means, one chaotic genocide spearheaded by these new Aryans or a slow methodical process.
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Also, dictatorship is a buzzword, all systems are inherently dictatorial, what changes is whos on top, in a "democracy" the Jews and wicked people with money and media influence play with society as they please, they only care about money, power and create conflict among the people to keep ruling them, in a good "dictatorship" a charismatic leader who cares for his people annihilates these Jews(here Jews doesn't just meant the "Jews" but the entire elite apparatus of commies, libs, retards who follow them, Muslims, immigrants, pretty much everyone who doesnt have a fanatic loyalty to the people and everyone else who doesn't want a unified uniform state of the people)... this is why they hate Hitler, in a world where you are supposed to betray your principles and community to interact in a transaction with these "Jews" caring for your people and fighting for them selflessly is the greatest sin you can do, and they will never forgive you for it.
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Once you strip away all the Jewish propaganda, and remove all Jewish ideologies that may have infiltrated your subconscious, you would realise that there is no good or bad side of history, there is only your people's side and every else...
All of modern politics is an illusion acting as a curtain to hide from the Goyim the fact that the world is one giant team deathmatch.
>>248002
you are retarded, race isnt the only thing that matters when those who share your race are ideologically against you
could hitler have been a germanic nationalist and achieved all he could if half the germans were muslim apes now?
>>247993
Y'know, joxx aside my stance on the subject is, if you are gen you can not be lc, since being hc, mc or lc is very much a spectrum and social reality than an ethnic line. If you are not really taking benefits of freebies, it is not really fair to call anyone an LC kek.
However>>247991
This anon is right. Race realism is the kind of thing more south indians also need to firmly believe in. I dont mean this in "Muh bloo eyes and blond hair loda lassun". I mean ethnic groups in past have devolved beyond help.
To put it simply, why should you are i be considered equall to the repeated offenders who show they are not even capable of forming a civil society? Or go a day without raping a child.
We cant even conduct a nation level IQ test among ethnic groups. Average are real, ofcourse i am not attacking you, i mean this on a general level, i am sure you dont consider yourself same as some northern chamar nor some souther chamar who have a historical bad rep that they still keep reinforcing.
>>248007
I think epigenetics is something which you haven’t considered. I believe decreasing the population significantly and then implementing an optimal diet will achieve the required goals; the Netherlands was one of the shortest countries in Europe at one point of time.
>>247998
Ironically UK is far worse than USA is, france is close third. They also got in germany and italy, but these two will not last long either according to what my friends are saying. They could be being heavily paranoid, as many autist do, but they have rarely been wrong untill now.
>>248013
That can only help maximize the genetic potential that already existed, you can't grow a third arm if you don't have those genes no matter how much protein you eat, the same way, a subhuman can't be taught to think
>>248007
Your definition of “Aryan” and “Abbo” can be replaced with “superior” and “inferior”? Your definition of aryan/abbo doesn’t seem to align with the general way the word is thrown around here.
>>248013
Unfortunately this is something i have considered in past. Issue is two angle you are failing to consider.
When you reduce population, how do you plan to do it? We are not, as far as ethnic groups go, divided in same kind of numbers. If you say something like "lets reducr everyone by half" you are systematically punishing everyone who does not breed and spawn like a rodent.
Second is a epigenetic cap. Epigenetics is very real, however it is also limited by biological capacity for something. That does not mean you are wrong, but results may not really be what you are assuming it to turn into.
>>248022
No, a selective reduction nkt a thanks snap. An idea is financial compensation for sterilisation with a set amount; the idea being the amount matters more to poorer people and hence the poors would be disproportionately removed.
Yea, I struggle with communication, people share the same vocabulary but not always the same dictionary, what I mean is promoting reproduction among genetically gifted(gifted in India just means being on par with whites atp), and raise them in controlled environments with controlled flow of information.
What matters the most is informational purity, we must not let Jewish ideologies or beliefs infiltrate the subconscious, Goyims are not slaves because everyone has a barrel pointed to their heads...
>>248027
once you have them in enough numbers we could get rid of those groups who are especially problematic, over generations this will allow us to move towards a uniform and better gene pool
>>248018
>you can't grow a third arm if you don't have those genes no matter how much protein you eat, the same way, a subhuman can't be taught to think
This. Before we get into epigenetics, can we first look at the subject if the ethnic identity from more empirical angle? Ethnic identities have their own averages. We are legally as well as socially prohibited from ever trying to check for Intellectual or physical cap even with economical equaliser and same nurture. Is not it a little wierd? Why not? How come we are not allowed to present stats for which ethnic group commits crime, and which ethnic groups are targetted, so we have better understanding of how to mitigate this problem?
I understand its one think if someone was brain dead retard and going with angle of "lets kill ALL people reeeee" but that is that, how come almost no one is world is allowed to check this, except for USA who did what they all pleased.
This would also prevent soshan and all other bs narrative. According to J sai, there is clear case of crime of an ethnic group against another one, but since ",domestic" natire of crime is not addressed, whoever is prominent in the said region is automatically put in scape goat as reaponsible for the said crime. Is not it a little weird?
>>248022
>Second is an epigenetic cap. Epigenetics is very real, however it is also limited by biological capacity for something
We are not a subhuman race. Accounts from Greek (and other) travellers paint a utopia, and we have also had our golden age of science, great works of architecture and so on. We are a great race that has fallen into decline, not a subhuman one like say southeast Asians. They won’t really achieve much of note, even if optimised.
>>248025
>An idea is financial compensation for sterilisation with a set amount; the idea being the amount matters more to poorer people and hence the poors would be disproportionately removed.
I actually agree with this, or what we are doing is perpetuating a problem. It creates a socially deprived as well as dependant ethnic group which needs to do as told by politicians, or they will not survive.
i assure you politicians absolutely love them for this. Every party eventually falls in that line for the said reason. If we try to do it humanely it will see a lot of chimp out. How about simply putting out the idea on social media.
I would prefer if we also did a very qualitative filter, for every ethnic group. If we have to go for it, we can preserve best of each ethnic group. I like the idea of criminals, specially the one with history of crime, specially one like rape or pedophillia being the one sterilized. I believe no one should have an issue with this.
>>247954
I actually agree with ozzy anon, abbo is used racially here to target every and all groups that are dravidan zone. I dont like this naturally, because this alienates the V1 of southern belt and i have nothing but respect for them. You should use just superior or inferior while we are at it. Think about it, see pakistani women are lower in AASI, but how are they better than the literate and trad women in tamil nadu. In the end, LC are one who are lesser than people in my eyes and ones ethnic zone alone does not do much to put them in good light, neither socially, nor personally in my eyes.
>>248037
problem is even poor or criminal won't necessarily mean low iq, its better to remove entire ethnic groups or target via genetic tests, especially for hereditary diseases
>>247962
If we go by technical sense, aryan is a person who follows four criteria check of
>Be from bloodline of core founding ethnic group>Be accepted equally by the existing group>Follow the faith of the original ethnic group>Stand with belief that does not oppose the very belief of core ethnic group
This is a little vague, but naturally the afghans are not aryans. Farthest you can go is perhaps sindhi Hindus, and even that may be a stretch. Though it is a different subject entirely.
>>247966
Bullseye. Now you get the picture. The midwit populace is eating up the jew is the problem because jew is the mask under mask. In reality the rest of group will stay free. It is certainly now beyond ethnic identities. Question is, how does one pin point who is the part of this group. I have a nice little nickname for this group.
Adramllech
>>248046
Source for the definition? It’s a definition which whether you made up or got from somewhere is not the same as the general defition of the word “Aryan” whether in the Indian or western context. Why use that word in the first place? If your definition of “cat” = dog, then you should probably use a different word to mean “dog”.
>>247977
If we are being literal, IQ means the fluid intellect that allows a person to adapt to his situation without any said prior experience to it. Solving problem from scratch. Everything else can be changed with time however few things change so less. IQ is one of such stuff and being studious or knowledable is mistaken for intelligence. In reality one could be far more knowledable than you i and ozzy anon combined but still have far more IQ points. Vice versa is also true ofcourse.
>>248066
anon when it comes to group dynamics race is not the supreme factor allegiance and ideology is, do u think a paki will be more brotherly to u than an abbo but indian like abborandias?
race matters Obv tho, ideally u have a racially homogeneous group, but if informational putity is not there we need to change focus
>>248040
You may laugh now, but the amount of time subhumans get mad when i say lets castrate rapists and pedophilles is actually astonishing. I want ek samosa do lachodi teen pakoda behen ki lodi to stop their randi rona, i want to walk out at night witbout some busty chick running away with her jiggling milk jugs thinking nirbhaya 2.0 is about to drop.
I am gonna be very clear, if we want to hold foids accountable we need to be pure like marble. Close to no moral flaw, i want a world were the real rape case is so low, judge can close eyes and call a foid "Fake case" and brush it off. This dream harma no one, with maybe exception of pedophile and subhuman rapist (entire delhi belt) so i can live with that.
>>248065
IQ is the G-factor and includes stuff such as working memory and stuff like that. The type of intelligence you’re talking about: a synthetic intelligence is much rarer and difficult to measure. It’s hard to convey it with language, but you get the idea. I would not score significantly higher than my peers if I were to take the WAIS.
>>248041
But, there IS something we can do in the democracy and i can not do this by myself if people keep doing this back and forth of nignoggery and strawmen.
Finding averages, this is my first and formost goal. Finding ethnic identity based stats for nearly as many group that are as unbiased as possible. If we fail to look at it from that angle we all are running in circles. Consider this picrel for a second, as an example of what stats can demonstate and what you or i are not even allowed to see in this nation, first thing.
>>248076
The idea of eugenics and castration as a whole has been demonised, especially due to Sanjay Gandhi and the emergency thing. That kinda gave it a sour taste in peoples mouths when they think of it.
>>248088
To further my point, Arthur Jensen, James Watson, Lee Jussim and some other figure were very non biased genetics researcher who did do a very good job i dare say. However one can imagine how that went. In the context of this nation, one has never even been allowed to go that far.
There could be many reasons for this, such as justification of targeted attack for a group (even if the said group may show that it has respectively on a historical basis targeted children and women). Lets put that aside, who does benefit from an ethnic group being predictably subhuman, think very carefully about this anons.
So my point is relatively simple in this dog fight, i want some degree of freedom where we can check ethnic groups for their level of social harm, how often they are targeted, by whom, their average IQ, and then we select from all ethnic groups in the precise same economical group (ideally over span of three groups) and then we should be able to take a course of action suited from that point onwards.
>>248092
I get that but why do people have an opposition to pedophilles being put into castration table? Its literally going to make everyone safe. Everyone, except those who oppose it. Have you ever wondered how do 300 underage girls get raped by muslims and no one bats an eye in UK? When it is brought up the officials just give slap on hand and let it? What could drive such an official head to do this, unless, he too was part of problem. Think anon think.
Just like a computer a person can be summed up as an integration of hardware and software, both matter.
Trying to create a racial brotherhood with Pakis won't work because they are running the Islamic OS. Just like you cant create an AD network between Linux and Windows computers even if they may have the same hardware.
>but sarrr u actually can do th...
ik but ignore that for this example
>>248105
Pedophilia does not necessarily imply bad genes, many people get false accused too. The justice system should focus on rehabilitating those who meet the set genetic critera and immediately executing those who don't.
Ofc there are limits, a Mulla terrorist from your race should be nuked, the information their brain runs on matters too.
>>248043
Thats kind of end goal, if we have to do it we have to factor the possible comsequences of it. If we have to do it, we unironically need stats and we do not have stats, at all, ethnic stats more importantly. Crime stats, rape stats, murder stats, tax evasion, or even pedophillia, POSCo cases (that have been confirmed) we have nothing. Like ozzy anon said its not a thanos snap or one who bred like the rats benefited from it.
If anyone has to justify this, which is only way for this nation to survive. We need to prioritise quality, i may be repeating myself over and over, bur we have no ethnic stats, none, and if anything their js active opposition of trying to find them by ethnic groups.
This can make a difference, since if we go by "regional stats" two ethnic groups in same belt may exist where one boasts average IQ of 110 while the other may ...have 85, averaging it is not fair. Similarly one may commit an average of 10 crimes a year while the other does 3, averaging them is again not fair. We need to go about it as an ethnic group by ethnic group.
I believe we will se a very, very high numbers for ethnic groups that are in muslim belt. However we may be able to pin point which muslim group does what kind of crime. A data base can make lots difference, which i hope is a relatively fair demand to make.
>>248045
>problem is even poor or criminal won't necessarily mean low iq, its better to remove entire ethnic groups or target via genetic tests, especially for hereditary diseases
That is actually the core issue, taken as an example, rich negroes have on average in usa commited 10 times as much crime than poorrst group of the european ancestory based americans.
>saar nigger saar cumskin
Both are retarded honestly, my only real alignment is with sons of bharata as i have said million times by now. (it may unironically be millionth tome by now).
My point is, removing entire ethnic groups is silly if we cant even tell "oh it is this specific kind of V1 that has been assaulting woman, others are allright" "oh its this specific kind of V5, that likes raping kids, others are good citizens".
Such labels can easily degrade, be it large brackets of region or clan, it can lap up innocents. Going ethnicity by ethnicity gives one incentive to see if
"Maybe this group does more for the land than it leeches of it, so we only take away one third of its nunbers" "this group does nothing, at all, it only leeches so we take four fith of its entire nunbers".
That would be my approach, if we are to heal the nation that is actually more than ok, same for people, its just we have expanded at astrinomical rates.
>>248047
>In actuality we need to forcibly sterilise some people as well.
seconded, which is why, again i wish we had stats that could act as criteria for this.
>>248059
The same as the source for the word. Regardless you fixate on things with little concern to you, way too much. Who is aryan or not is fundamentally very much unrelated to this, one can be a true Aryan and be a shit bag and one can be a Mllech and be a good person. Leave it at that, that is a convo for other day.
>>248064
>How heritable is rapey-ness and pedophilia? Have you done research on the same?
Well i know you are not joking, and i wish i kept my papers. But see the thing is, rapeyness is infact a very much heredetary trait.
One interesting thing is, if it hapoens for generation, ideally three it ends up locked in for most part. Upto 10 and it is very much default setting. It is on average controlled by poor brain size that controls empathy as well as the ability to make decisions. Basically it is a consequence of low inhibition, as far as repetitive pattern goes.
Pedophillia is complicated, its like everytime something useful comes up the papers reach a dead end for some reason. It tries to push for this root of "Exloring this further may cause the bigots to target sexualities". This to my surprise is so bad i have seen this even in real life in my line of work, to point someone defended the idea of preventing genes that can make one a pedophille because someone was a bit concerned about "what about gays and lesbians". I think you get the idea of how doomed we are.
My goal with castrating pedophilles is for starters is to keep children safe and repeated rape offenders, it just makes world a safe place. Serial and gang rapist are obviously not helping anyone, regardless of how incels may think, most rapist consider them this little fodder. My core goal is making a safe society for starters, what comes later comes later.
>>248067
>>248073
Sometimes i have way too much hope with anons and then someone ends up reminding me that average IQ of this site is in jusf two digits, thanks for being the one to remind me that today.
>>248081
Naturally, and i keep it in mind honestly, since i wish to approach this issue with an actuall objectivity rather than brain dead retards of 4chan do.
>>248107
This, also besides pakis have way too much scythian with them. Everyone is well aware not all steppe is aryan, and we cant trace which autosomal came from which group anymore, due to how much intermix happened untill the punjab belt. Its a hardware that looks like you, is not same as you. That again is a different subject.
>>248116
I am actually talking about entiries who are proven to have harmed the children. Atleast once, i am very well aware people get falsly accused, for all we care everyone in this thread can be falsly accused. That is howrver a different problem, i am very specifically talking about individuals who do harm children, castrating them is beneficial for society.
I had some other stats to also display, that shows how brain structure has a tendency to be different between two groups (this is done with factor in for both economic status, showing that the differencd is a hard line that still persist for very specific groups even with nutrition and economic freedom as well). This is not in context of our nation, but it may have helped me explain my point.
Further there is case studies done that display crime statistics where even a high money group shows even further agravated crime stats while the other group shows low stats even with a sustained poor economic condition. Later though, my head hurts.
Here, enjoy this scene from the movie Kaithi, because it apparently pisses of NW unionists. Hope to eat just like this someday.
Fucking retards in this chan thinking themselves of aryan and abbo unironically other than as a joke.
The question of genetics can be answered by changing the diet and actually fucking exercising instead of being a skinnyfat pajeet. Ive seen countless dumeels born and brought up in jewsa with chad faces and bodies who are dark brown as you can be and still mogging. Dosent matter what region of lundia you are from, change is possible but not implemented due to being a dumbocracy
Some how knew atleast one anon will be retarded enough to chimp out at one point or another, trying to derail the thread or something, projecting a strawman at one point. It has been a pleasant thread, atul subhratri you all.
