Have you ever noticed or tried to stay on a good path long enough that it picks up momentum? I've noticed that momentum is very forgiving as long as you feed it, but it's strong, a downward spiral of life, gooning all day, eating like shit, stuck watching reels, watching incel/psl content, you'll notice you're more likely to stay in the spiral, the momentum is strong, but if you suffer for a bit to change the direction, and if you pick up any amount of speed, even without a single concrete result you'll feel satisfied, because you'll see how easy life feels, you don't feel guilty anymore, you'll feel guilty and shit and more puritanical when ur on a downward spiral.
You'll feel like you should be doing something, every bad action will hurt something fundamental within you, but it'll also be easier and easier, it's a kind of a loop, and the guy telling you "dude it's so over what are we doing" is a part of the problem, which is why it's easy to be stuck on a downward cycle, people on a downward cycle in life are not forgiving themselves at all, they will beat themselves up and do it again, and they can only eat themselves, because they create this world where they rank their own worth with every action, and they fail to take good action because of the same punishing voice, you're so used to beating yourself up that you're a bully to yourself, even a good thing becomes useless.
But an upward spiral, you can feel, it's better than any substance I've ever taken, it's like something within me is spiritually clear beyond any state, hunger, headache, heartache, or anything if you're going up and you know it you're forgiving to yourself and helpful, you can be entirely broken down but the spirit, it's so good bros.
>>22249
Funny thing is that you can scroll reels, eat junk or goon (in moderation) but when ur actually on an upward momentum you won't care, puritanism only comes to the negative. Which is why I can't stand the David Goggins types, it's a perpetual punishment towardsd oneself, and in a sense negative downward spirals are all a loop of being cruel to oneself, then coping because restorative actions are ALSO bullied, by your own brain.
Which to me feels, strangely poignant now, seeing the internets obession with monkmode and extreme cutting down of all pleasures because of a guilt complex essentially, because you can only cut and remove when you're going down
>>22256
The only difference between me now and 1-2 years ago would be that I dont bully myself.
>>22258
The problem points to the trap itself, you read what I wrote and think, man i need to start being productive, I am doing something wrong! Essentially thats the start of the loop
Unsatisfied -> use coping mechanisms -> unsatisfaction appears again -> use shame and guilt as moderation crutch -> shame and guilt cut and stop things and make you feel less than -> any attempts to recover start feeling futile due to shame (man, I can't do x, too much time has passed, I've fucked up, its over) -> use coping mechanisms -> when not coping use shame and guilt as the only thing to hopelessly reorient yourself.
The goal then would be to try to recover by listening less to thoughts of shame and guilt, which is hard, but it can be made easier by non-identification with ones thoughts, and slow positive seeds. Now immediately the mind thinks "great, im in rehab now, Ive fucked up so bad I need to plant small seeds", but this is where it's wrong, it feels hard when ur changing the direction of the spiral but I promise ANY amount of momentum feels better than not.
If you're out of shape for example, you'll feel its futile to go to the gym, or maybe you think you should but you avoid it, deep down you feel x event is coming up and I wont be ready enough, so im fighting a losing battle, but were you to start working out and ignore the thoughts that tell you its not enough, even having done 2 weeks will give you FEEL much better, even without any result you'll already be freer from the bondage of some shame.