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>>209073 If by “battles lost by Rajputs brutally” you mean major battles where Rajput forces suffered severe defeats, here is a historically grounded list. “Brutally” is better understood as particularly costly or decisive, rather than assuming exact casualty figures where sources disagree. | Battle | Year | Rajput side | Opponent | Result / significance | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Second Battle of Tarain | 1192 | Prithviraj Chauhan & Rajput confederacy | Muhammad Ghori | Ghurid victory; Prithviraj was captured and Chauhan power in the Delhi-Ajmer region collapsed. Wikipedia+1 | | Battle of Chandawar | 1194 | Jayachandra of Kannauj | Muhammad Ghori | Ghurid victory; Jayachandra was killed and Gahadavala power was badly weakened. | | Siege of Ranthambore | 1301 | Hammiradeva Chauhan | Alauddin Khalji | Khalji victory after a prolonged siege; Hammiradeva was defeated. Wikipedia | | Siege of Chittor | 1303 | Rawal Ratan Singh | Alauddin Khalji | Khalji victory; Chittor fell after the siege and a jauhar is traditionally associated with the defeat. Rajasthan Foundation+1 | | Siege of Siwana | 1308 | Sitaldeva Chauhan | Alauddin Khalji | Khalji victory; the fort ultimately fell. Wikipedia | | Battle/Siege of Jalore | 1311 | Kanhadadeva | Alauddin Khalji | Khalji victory after prolonged resistance; Kanhadadeva was killed. Connect Civils | | Battle of Khanwa | 1527 | Rana Sanga & Rajput confederacy | Babur | Decisive Mughal victory; one of the most consequential Rajput defeats. Babur's artillery and battlefield tactics played an important role. Wikipedia+1 | | Battle of Sammel/Giri-Sumel | 1544 | Rao Maldeo Rathore | Sher Shah Suri | Sur victory, although Rajput resistance was fierce and the victory was costly. Connect Civils | | Siege of Chittorgarh | 1567–68 | Mewar under Udai Singh II's commanders | Akbar | Mughal victory; Akbar captured Chittor after a major siege. Wikipedia | | Battle of Haldighati | 1576 | Maharana Pratap's Mewar forces | Mughal army under Man Singh | Mughal battlefield victory; Pratap withdrew but continued resistance and later recovered substantial territory. Rajasthan Foundation+1 | | Mughal campaigns in Mewar | 1577–80 | Maharana Pratap | Mughal forces | Several Mughal victories temporarily brought large parts of Mewar under Mughal control, although Pratap's resistance continued. Wikipedia | ### The three most consequential defeats 1. Second Battle of Tarain (1192) — Muhammad Ghori's victory over Prithviraj Chauhan dramatically changed the political balance of northern India. Wikipedia 2. Battle of Khanwa (1527) — Babur defeated Rana Sanga's large Rajput confederacy, preventing Sanga from displacing the newly established Mughal power. Wikipedia 3. Siege of Chittorgarh (1567–68) — Akbar's capture of the principal Mewar stronghold was a major Mughal victory, although Mewar resistance continued. Wikipedia Important correction: Haldighati is often described online as an absolute “Rajput defeat,” but the more precise statement is that the Mughals won the battlefield engagement, while Maharana Pratap escaped and subsequently continued the struggle; he later recovered much of western Mewar. Rajasthan Foundation
Yes. The important point is that there were numerous Rajput–Mughal matrimonial alliances, but the identities of several princesses are uncertain in the surviving sources. Here is a more careful list. ## Rajput princesses married to Muslim rulers | Rajput princess / identification | Rajput house | Muslim husband | Approx. date | Confidence | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Harka Bai / Mariam-uz-Zamani | Kachhwaha of Amber | Akbar | 1562 | Very strong | | Daughter of Rao Viramde | Rathore of Merta | Akbar | 1562 | Strong | | Daughter of Rawal Har Rai | Bhati of Jaisalmer | Akbar | 1570 | Strong | | Raj Kunwari / Raj Kanwar | Rathore of Bikaner | Akbar | 1570 | Strong | | Bhanumati | Rathore of Bikaner | Akbar | 1570 | Strong | | Man Bai | Kachhwaha of Amber | Jahangir (Prince Salim) | 1584 | Very strong | | Jagat Gosain / Jodh Bai | Rathore of Marwar | Jahangir | 1586 | Very strong | | Daughter of Rai Singh | Rathore of Bikaner | Jahangir | 1580s | Strong | | Raj Kumari Karamsi | Rathore | Jahangir | — | Strong | | Daughter of Rawal Bhim | Jaisalmer | Jahangir | — | Strong | | Daughter of Ram Chandra Bundela | Bundela | Jahangir | — | Strong | | Daughter of Jagat Singh Kachhwaha | Kachhwaha of Amber | Jahangir | — | Strong | | Bai Lilawati | Rathore/Marwar connection | Prince Khurram (later Shah Jahan) | — | Moderate/strong | The existence of several of these alliances is supported by historical accounts of Mughal–Rajput relations. A modern scholarly study, for example, confirms Akbar's 1562 marriage alliance with the Amber ruling family and his 1570 marriages involving Jaisalmer and Bikaner. Doi+1 ### 1\. Harka Bai / Mariam-uz-Zamani → Akbar This is the best-known and best-attested example. She was the daughter of Raja Bharmal (Bihari Mal) of Amber, a Kachhwaha Rajput ruler. Akbar married her at Sambhar in 1562\. She subsequently became known by the imperial title Mariam-uz-Zamani and was the mother of Jahangir. Doi+1 One important correction to popular culture: “Jodha Bai” is not the name securely given to her in contemporary Mughal sources. The name became associated with Akbar's Rajput wife in much later tradition. Indo-Islamic World+1 ### 2\. Rajput princesses → Akbar Akbar subsequently formed matrimonial alliances with other Rajput ruling families. In 1570 he married a daughter of Rawal Har Rai of Jaisalmer and a niece of Rai Kalyan Mal of Bikaner. Doi Other lists identify the Bikaner women as Raj Kunwari/Raj Kanwar and Bhanumati. Kiwix Server ### 3\. Man Bai → Jahangir Man Bai, daughter of Raja Bhagwant Das of Amber, married Prince Salim, the future Emperor Jahangir. Their son was Prince Khusrau. This was another major Kachhwaha–Mughal alliance. HP University ### 4\. Jagat Gosain → Jahangir Jagat Gosain, also called Jodh Bai in some historical traditions, was a Rathore princess associated with Marwar/Jodhpur. She married Jahangir and became the mother of Prince Khurram, who later became Emperor Shah Jahan. HP University ### 5\. Other Jahangir-era Rajput marriages Jahangir continued the matrimonial policy. Historical summaries record marriages involving princesses from Bikaner, Jaisalmer, Bundela territories and the Kachhwaha house, in addition to Man Bai and Jagat Gosain. HP University ### An important distinction It would be inaccurate to say that all Rajput kingdoms followed this policy. The Sisodia rulers of Mewar, for example, famously resisted matrimonial alliances with the Mughal emperors for much of this period. Akbar's negotiations with Rana Pratap's Mewar did not produce such a marriage alliance. Wikipedia Also, these marriages should be understood primarily as political/diplomatic alliances between ruling houses. They were part of Akbar's broader strategy of incorporating Rajput rulers into the Mughal political system; they weren't simply personal marriages. A recent scholarly treatment describes Akbar's policy as combining coercion, conciliation, friendship and matrimonial relations. Cambridge University Press One correction to my previous answer: I would _not_ confidently include a supposed “Jaisalmer princess who married Alauddin Khalji” without qualification. The evidence and identification are considerably less secure than the Mughal-era examples above. If you'd like, I can next give you a chronological list from 1000–1800 of Rajput women who married Muslim rulers—including Delhi Sultans, Mughals, Gujarat Sultans and Bengal rulers—with the names of their fathers and husbands.
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>>209102 Yes. I checked the historical material more carefully. A chronological list is possible, but it is important to distinguish documented marriages from later legends and unnamed princesses. ## 1\. Before the Mughals: 13th–15th centuries ### Deval Devi — Vaghela of Gujarat → Khizr Khan - Father: Karan Deva II, the last major Vaghela ruler of Gujarat. - Husband: Khizr Khan, son of Sultan Alauddin Khalji. - Date: traditionally placed around 1308. - Status: Well-known historical account, but details are preserved largely through later Persian and regional narratives. - After Khizr Khan's death, contemporary/near-contemporary accounts describe Deval Devi being taken into the household of his brother Mubarak Shah; later tradition associates her with Khusrau Khan as well. Wikipedia This is an important example because it predates the famous Mughal-Rajput marriages by more than two centuries. ### Earlier Delhi Sultanate alliances There is evidence that daughters of Rajput chiefs were sometimes married to Muslim rulers from the 13th century onward, including rulers of the Delhi Sultanate. However, many of the women's personal names are not preserved, so it is misleading to manufacture a list of names. Historians describe these marriages as political instruments used by defeated or allied chiefs. Scribd --- # 2\. Akbar's reign — 1556–1605 This is where the practice became much more extensive and much better documented. ### Harka Bai / Mariam-uz-Zamani — Amber → Akbar - Father: Raja Bihari Mal/Bharmal of Amber - Clan: Kachhwaha - Husband: Emperor Akbar - Marriage: 1562 - Confidence: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ This is one of the best-documented Rajput–Mughal marriages. The contemporary _Akbarnama_ does not actually give her personal name; it identifies her as the daughter of Bihari Mal. The name Harka Bai and especially the popular name Jodha Bai come from later traditions. Doi+1 She subsequently received the title Mariam-uz-Zamani and became the mother of Prince Salim, later Emperor Jahangir. ### Daughter of Jagmal Viramdevot — Merta → Akbar - Father: Jagmal Viramdevot - House: Mertiya Rathore - Husband: Akbar - Date: around 1562–63 - Confidence: ⭐⭐⭐⭐ This was another early Mughal-Rajput political marriage. The marriage was connected with Jagmal's struggle over control of Merta. Scribd ### Daughter of Rawal Har Rai — Jaisalmer → Akbar - Father: Rawal Har Rai - House: Bhati - Husband: Akbar - Date: 1570 - Confidence: ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A contemporary-oriented scholarly study specifically records Akbar marrying the daughter of Rawal Har Rai of Jaisalmer in 1570. Doi ### Bikaner princess → Akbar - Family: Rathore rulers of Bikaner - Husband: Akbar - Date: 1570 - Confidence: ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Akbar also established a matrimonial alliance with the Bikaner ruling family at Nagaur in 1570. The sources describe her as a niece of Rai Kalyan Mal, rather than necessarily giving a universally agreed personal name. Doi --- # 3\. Jahangir's reign — 1605–1627 ### Man Bai — Amber → Jahangir - Father: Raja Bhagwant Das - Clan: Kachhwaha - Husband: Prince Salim, later Emperor Jahangir - Marriage: 1584 - Confidence: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Man Bai was the mother of Prince Khusrau. The marriage occurred while Akbar was still emperor, when Salim was heir apparent. HP University ### Jagat Gosain — Marwar → Jahangir - Father: Raja Udai Singh ("Mota Raja") of Marwar - Clan: Rathore - Husband: Jahangir - Marriage: 1586 - Confidence: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ She was the mother of Prince Khurram, who became Emperor Shah Jahan. This is another particularly important Rajput-Mughal connection because it means Shah Jahan was the son of a Rajput mother. Wikipedia ### Bikaner princesses → Jahangir Jahangir also married women from the Bikaner ruling family. Some historical summaries record these marriages without consistently preserving the women's personal names. HP University ### Jaisalmer princesses → Jahangir Likewise, matrimonial connections with the Jaisalmer ruling family continued during Jahangir's period. Again, the identities of individual women are not always securely established. HP University ### Bundela princess → Jahangir - Father: Ram Chandra Bundela - House: Bundela - Husband: Jahangir - Confidence: ⭐⭐⭐⭐ The surviving historical summaries identify her through her father rather than providing a universally accepted personal name. HP University ### Kachhwaha princess → Jahangir Jahangir also married a daughter of Jagat Singh Kachhwaha, the eldest son of Raja Man Singh of Amber. HP University --- # 4\. Shah Jahan's generation ### Bai Lilawati — Marwar → Shah Jahan - Grandfather: Raja Gaj Singh of Marwar - Father: Rao Sakat Singh - Husband: Prince Khurram, later Shah Jahan - Confidence: ⭐⭐⭐⭐ Historical summaries record Bai Lilawati as the granddaughter of Raja Gaj Singh and wife of the future Shah Jahan. HP University However, this should not be confused with Jagat Gosain, who was Shah Jahan's mother. --- # 5\. Gujarat Sultanate — another important group Rajput-Muslim marriages weren't limited to the Mughals. ### Rajbai — Rajput → Muzaffar Shah II - Husband: Sultan Muzaffar Shah II of Gujarat - Confidence: Moderate ### Bibi Rani — Rajput → Muzaffar Shah II - Background: described in historical literature as belonging to a Rajput/Suryavanshi family - Husband: Muzaffar Shah II - Confidence: Moderate ### Laximi Bai — Gohil Rajput → Muzaffar Shah II - House: Gohil Rajput - Husband: Muzaffar Shah II - Son: Sultan Bahadur Shah of Gujarat - Confidence: Moderate/strong These examples are important because they demonstrate that Rajput-Muslim political marriages existed outside the Mughal system as well. Wikipedia ### Kankavati Rathore → Mahmud Shah III - Father: Rao Maldeo of Marwar - Clan: Rathore - Husband: Mahmud Shah III of Gujarat - Confidence: Moderate Sources also record another daughter of Rao Maldeo being married into the Gujarat Muslim ruling establishment. Wikipedia --- ## What about Mewar? This is where the story becomes particularly interesting. The Sisodia rulers of Mewar were considerably more resistant to matrimonial alliances with the Mughals. During Akbar's reign, Mewar did not join the matrimonial alliance system in the way Amber, Bikaner, Marwar and several other Rajput states did. Wikipedia That's why Maharana Pratap and the Mewar resistance should not be lumped together with Rajput houses that entered matrimonial alliances with Akbar. ## Bottom line The historically safest list is roughly: 1. Harka Bai/Mariam-uz-Zamani — Amber → Akbar 2. Daughter of Jagmal Viramdevot — Merta → Akbar 3. Daughter of Rawal Har Rai — Jaisalmer → Akbar 4. Bikaner princess/niece of Kalyan Mal → Akbar 5. Man Bai — Amber → Jahangir 6. Jagat Gosain — Marwar → Jahangir 7. Bikaner princesses → Jahangir 8. Jaisalmer princesses → Jahangir 9. Daughter of Ram Chandra Bundela → Jahangir 10. Daughter of Jagat Singh Kachhwaha → Jahangir 11. Bai Lilawati — Marwar → Shah Jahan 12. Deval Devi — Vaghela Gujarat → Khizr Khan 13. Rajbai — Rajput → Muzaffar Shah II of Gujarat 14. Bibi Rani — Rajput → Muzaffar Shah II 15. Laximi Bai — Gohil → Muzaffar Shah II 16. Kankavati Rathore — Marwar → Mahmud Shah III of Gujarat One caution: numbers 7–10 contain women whose personal names are not securely preserved, so I have deliberately identified them by their fathers/houses rather than inventing names. The Mughal-Rajput marriage system was extensive, but the surviving sources don't permit a reliable “20+ named princesses” list. Akbar's matrimonial alliances were part of a broader strategy of political integration of Rajput ruling houses. cambridge.org+1
Ahoms who are called chinki by these cucks did not ever let the Mughals win btw
>>209106 Most probably the Mughals got weaker by the time when they attacked east because of mixing with the rajputanis
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This ai spammer is rakulcel
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I badly wanna plap his abbo ass
>>209073 as a proud rajput i masturbate to thought of Mariam-uz-Zamani

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