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you literally answered your own question lmao Everything seems logical, rational and nice when you are defending existence of God. But apologising for all sorts of word religious beliefs like Chudammad, Kikest etc seems like BS. There is nothing special in "western theology".

>>189665 It's simply because Whites are higher IQ + cultural capital. I've always found White Christian apoligists like William Lane Craig to be far smarter than abbo brownoid Muslim apologists like Mohammad Hijab, Zakir Naik, etc.

>>189681 >cultural capital its just high IQ nigfa, culture isn't something separate

Debating is an incel activity. You dont change any beliefs with a debate. Everyone has already made their decisions mentally and need others to reinforce their beliefs. Its the whole reason why echo chambers exist. Debating is a puppyjeet activity so that pooleets can pat themselves on tge back for being so intellectual

>>189665 the mere fact that dharmic cultures believe in a circular time pattern make it superior to the abrahamic cultures who believe in a linear time pattern

>>189682 But culture takes a lot of time to develop. It can often be destroyed because of invasions and shit and then you have to literally start over. That can take centuries. Environment also matters.

>>189686 How? Explain. Time is linear. Not circular.

>>189684 Debating is a legitimate academic process buddy. And many people change their beliefs after debates. People like Vaush and Destiny open up to incel ideas and admit women do have a problem (though they try to undermine it or blame it on capitalism) after debating mgtowers/incels. Even aforementioned Cosmic Skeptic has changed lots of his opinion over the years after debating many people. >>189686 We most probably definitely don't live in a cyclic time though. And this isn't true in case of historical process either as we have yet to observe a past as advanced and developed as what came after it (the usual argument is comparing Roman era to medievalist era but anyone who is not educated by pop history knows this isn't true, it's more accurate to day the progress slowed down or stagnated during the medieval era in europe, not regressed).

>>189690 Theism can be simply rejected based on absence of evidence. Anything else is mental masturbation.

>>189687 Physical destruction is a different thing. Culture is downstream from genetics. Persians got invaded and islamised but they were the ones who became intellectual torchbearers of islamic golden age not arabs.

>>189688 Dharmic Theology: universe functions in a cyle. eg good leads to bad which later again leads to good supported by various psychological and sociological and anthropological theories birth-death-birth-death all part of universe cycle (think big bang-big crunch) everything is part of the cosmic cycle eternal time means infinite recurrence of everything (think quantum many world interpretation) there's no single defining characteristic of time like christ. even deities change every yuga Abrahamic Theology: time is linear a particular event happened during life of Christ people born before that arent judged by God regularly if you die today, you'll be kept waiting until the day of judgment when you'll be sent to either heaven or hell for eternity everybody who lived or died after Christ is waiting right now in purgatory time is just a line segment. not infinite. and the coming of Christ is the only defining characteristic

>>189691 These debates aren't usually exercises in mental masturbation though. Watch them. The way things are in the universe now, there can only be two probabilities 1) We either had an intelligent designer outside of space time or 2) There are multiple infinite number of universes and iterations and as just happened to live in that allowed humans to exist and observe the universe. Latter is what usually atheists like Hawkins believes in but both claims can be equally dismissed as not true because we can't in any manner observe anything outside the universe.

>>189694 >supported by various psychological and sociological and anthropological theories They're not though. >eternal time And neither is time eternal as far as we know

>>189694 Once again, this post captures a lot of the issues with Indian theologians. Its a bunch of intellectual and nice sounding ideas and memes repeated ad nauseam with inherent assumptions instead of trying to prove your claim. I've hardly seen a western theologian start his debate by claiming his teleological view of time is essentialist unlike Indian theologians.

>>189701 all western theologists just circle jerk their arguments ie the book said its right why is book credible? cuz its word of god how do you know? book said so

>>189701 > I've hardly seen a western theologian start his debate by claiming his teleological view of time is essentialist unlike Indian theologians. Time is linear , so I don't know why would they even argue about it Main debates on Christianity are on 1. Biblical Literalism 2. Evolution vs Intelligent Design 3. Biblical Morality 4. The existence of Biblical God 5. Abortion.

>>189701 indian mainstream theologists are retards read mandala 10 rigveda for yourself and create your own interpretation don't read purans and aboslop

>>189705 I'm talking about actual apologetics, not what they tell their low IQ masses.

>>189708 Read all books you can find and form your own opinion. Dont waste your time on any intellectual masturbation. You live in the same world where more than 100,000 women believe lindsay clancy is innocent. Emotional manipulation not facts is what actually changes public opinion