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I finally discovered why fourfold varna model was not ritually applied to dravidians. Turns out they did not bother adhering to orthodox brahminical rituals so even upper castes were classified as Sat-Shudras by brahmins. In north, rajputisation was prevlant and could allow shudras to become rajput.
Like i said, no one gave af to what the ponga had to say
>>178320 And now entire state claims OBC and BC status with 69 % reservation against a 3 percent general population while still crying about representation and oppression, furthermore they still discriminate against actual Dalits and sc Lundia is brootal
>>178323 Pongas actually accomodated dravid upper castes through puranic rituals(which were easy to perform) and the elites through hiranyagarbha.
>>178331 But even then some exceptions like cholas and shivaji armtwisted their way and earned claim of suryavanshi descent.
>>178331 Shudras kings quite often used hirangarbha to change their status , I wonder how did we reach the conclusions we have today about varna jati system, so plainly wrong
>>178345 There have always been ritual workarounds as long as you got money.
Unironically people werent so varna conscious prior to brits. Yes they were jāti conscious in everyday life but not varna conscious. Brits with their obsession of discovering and applying some hindu equivalent of canon law like back home stumbled upon dharamshastras. What was earlier just some prescriptive text of pongas was for the first time applied and every jati was force fit into their simplified varna framework of Herbert Hope Risley in census records.
>>178320 Bhangbhosda then Bhangbhosda now

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