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Are there any good arguments for believing in reincarnation? Is there any good evidence for believing in reincarnation? I think reincarnation is just cope to deal with your own mortality and justify oppressing LCs saying that they did bad karma in their past lives.
>>159754 no and no, consciousness is just an illusion, you dont make any decision, YOU are the final module of the brain that arises from rest of the brain functioning which you cant even affect, and you rationalise and feels like you did anything, consciousness isnt even real, there is no consistent entity being transferred even if you got reincarnated, your behavior and emotions would entirely depend on how your brain is structured
>>159754 examples of people who can play instruments really early. i remember reading a book years back where they gave examples of someone in one of the western countries started speaking gibberish at the age of 4-5 that nobody in their home understood. turns out he was speaking sanskrit.
>>159754 one more example i have personally witnessed several years back. neighbour auntie who lived above my house died early, like 35 yo early. when she died the next day a frog came by waiting outside their house. wasn't even rainy season her kids helped it move in the parking. the next day it was again waiting outside their house.this happened everyday for a week or so and then it stopped.
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>>159754 it's all just a giant glass of cope
>>159754 nigga iz you dumb? where the fuck do chamars come in the reincarnation argument?
I believe in quantum immortality, you won't die in your reality, just branch off and keep living
>>159768 You're the dumb one it seems
>>159760 But why am I me and not someone else? What would happen if someone made a full replica of my physical body?
>>159770 if that were true we should have 1000 years old people around
>>159778 it is an illusion, a new entity would be created, you change every year everyday, it is the very function of your brain to make you feel it is all one consistent you
>>159778 The Ship of Theseus
>>159780 information being processed with a large enough feedback loop creates this illusion
>>159783 it doesnt even really give any evolutionary advantage, there could be no consciousness illusion being felt and your brain would continue doing what it does, others around you wouldnt even be able to tell, thats because consciousness is a side effect of information being processed
>>159779 you would keep living in your reality until you die of old age. you can die in someone's else's reality, it will branch off just for you.
>>159754 What if your parents married someone else? Would you have never been born? Or could you be anyone of their children? >>159780 Why am I only feeling this illusion in my own body? Why am I not someone else? Will I be anyone else in the future? Isn't that reincarnation then?
>>159788 because there is no consistent entity being transferred, it literally only exists because information is being processed, and this state of awareness feels the same in everyone, behavioral changes and emotions being a result of the structure of the brain
>>159786 that makes no sense, your decaying cells and a bullet heading to your brain would be indistinguishable on a small enough level, u should not die of anything at all if that were true
>>159785 >>159785 How can something so complex develop if it doesn't offer any advantage? >side effect of information being processed computers process information without any consciousness. I don't think consciousness is necessary for anything.
>>159798 Only conclusion I can draw from this is that consciousness didn't come from evolution
>>159796 maybe you branch off to the world where there are 10000 year olds
>>159800 IDK may be I am just coping.
>>159798 it needs to be processed in a certain manner yaar, you need a complex feedback loop like our brain has, and multiple layers of processing that act independently and share data after that AI doesnt have that feedback loop and besides that the hardware theyre being hosted on doesnt mimic how the brain processes information, chips process info sequentially unlike parallely in our brain, and then also needs an agent that can actually interact with the world, basically just taking input and output from the real world by itself
does it even matter?
>>159817 Every human has the hardware for consciousness. Why am I only me and not someone else?
>>159826 What's the probability that I will experience some other body in the future?
>>159826 >>159828 you are doing so every second, the consistency only occurs because the information is related and is gathered continuously tick by tick, \ you cant be anyone else for you are not at all
>>159830 i did not write this post, my brain did, i only feel like i did this
i liked this video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qa_bHMtDcc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qa_bHMtDcc
cutting their brain apart literally created two different entities who only became one when the both both look at the same information, visual input
>>159838 this proves that you only exist if all parts of your brain can access the same information, once the information bifurcated you could see them act independently, there are probably more such illusions operating inside your brain but dont control any method of output so we cant detect them
>>159840 I know you can only experience whatever is connected to your brain. But why am I one of these people? Will I be one of these in the future? Why am I only in this body and not in some other body?
>>159847 define yourself
>>159847 say there are 5 different torches in a room, each create 5 different beams of light, right? all 5 are creating light, yet they are all unique, you are not a ghost that walked into the room and grabbed the flashlight, you are the beam of light, you cant be anything else because you only exist because of your flashlight(the collective processing of information in your brain)
>>159848 >>159848 The entity that is experiencing the percept and the thoughts of this particular body.
>>159850 I do get what you're saying. It sounds logical. But I feel weird about it in a way that I can't seem to be able to express in words.
>>159850 you could feel what it would be like to be someone else only if you were literally their brain, heres the thing, you is not unique, the feeling of awareness is the same in all, people only act and feel different because of structure of their brain and memories, if one could plug your brain like a hard drive and format it and dump my entire brain's volumes into your brain then that would essentially just create another toranon, but i wouldnt feel like it because i dont exist, that information being processed is separate, that brain would have a similar illusion but it would be processing different sensory input, and not share it with my original brain, hence i remain unique and cant be you, unless both of our brains were connected and processed all information together
>>159860 if we both could connect our brains like that as if it were a single one, the entity created would swear on its life that it is literally both of us at the same time, but because it is processing all information from both our brains together the illusion arising is the only 1 actually, this is exactly why you feel you are the same you that you were a second ago even tho new information has physically changed the structure of your brain, you only exists continually because the information is collected tick by tick and processed together, the illusion just grows bigger

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